{"id":24321,"date":"2024-01-07T00:01:38","date_gmt":"2024-01-07T08:01:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/?p=24321"},"modified":"2023-12-27T16:48:58","modified_gmt":"2023-12-28T00:48:58","slug":"a-357-magnum-ruger-bisley","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/2024\/01\/07\/a-357-magnum-ruger-bisley\/","title":{"rendered":"A .357 Magnum Ruger Bisley"},"content":{"rendered":"

In a prior blog I described bidding on a Ruger .357 Blackhawk that had been owned by Hank Williams, Jr<\/a>.\u00a0 The Rock Island Auction folks predicted the gun would sell for between $900 and $1,600, and I wanted it so I put in a bid at $2,000 (which I thought was ridiculously high).\u00a0 That gun sold for $5,000.\u00a0 There are evidently guys out there who have the disease worse than me.<\/p>\n

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The Hank Williams, Jr., Ruger .357 Magnum Blackhawk. It sold for $5,000. The buyer’s premium on top of that would have been nearly a thousand bucks!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Then last month another Rock Island auction rolled around, and this one had a Ruger .357 Bisley.\u00a0 \u00a0The concept and history of the Bisley is interesting.\u00a0 Bisley is the name of a target range in England, and when Colt introduced a target variant of its famed Single Action Army revolver in 1894, they named it the Colt Bisley.\u00a0 The most obvious differences between the Bisley and a standard Single Action Army is the Bisley’s longer grip with a more pronounced hump.\u00a0 Colt’s Bisley also had a rear sight that is adjustable for windage and interchangeable front sight posts for elevation adjustment.<\/p>\n

Ruger introduced a modern Bisley version of its Blackhawk revolver line in 1985 (with revolvers chambered in .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum, .44 Magnum, and .45 Colt).\u00a0 I always thought the Ruger Bisley was a marketing thing and I thought the Bisley’s odd-shaped handle was visually unappealing, so I never felt the need for one.\u00a0 But needs and wants can change.\u00a0 \u00a0A friend of mine let me try his .357 Magnum Ruger Bisley a few years ago.\u00a0 I liked its heft and slightly longer barrel (7 1\/2 inches versus the standard Blackhawk’s 6 1\/2 inches).\u00a0 Ruger stopped making the .357 Magnum Bisley a few years after it was introduced, and they are hard to find now.<\/p>\n

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A sense of scale: Ruger .357 Bisley, Ruger .357 Blackhawk, Ruger .44 Super Blackhawk, and Uberti Colt Walker.\u00a0 They are all big guns.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The modern Ruger Bisley has a massive appearance, and that’s kind of cool.\u00a0 At 7 1\/2 inches, the barrel is an inch longer than the .357 Blackhawk and the Bisley has the larger grip frame.\u00a0 The Bisley grip frame feels awkward to me, but it is easier on the hand under heavy recoil. I’m probably just used to the standard Blackhawk grip frame.\u00a0 For me, the larger Super Blackhawk grip frame is the best of all.<\/p>\n

Some might call these big guns horse pistols, which have been defined as handguns usually carried in a holster while riding a horse.\u00a0 The Bisley is smaller than a Colt Walker (a monster of a handgun), but by any other measure the Bisley is a huge revolver.\u00a0 It is heavier than the regular .357 Magnum Blackhawk for four reasons:\u00a0 The unfluted cylinder, the longer barrel, the grip is larger, and the gripframe is made of steel instead of aluminum.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Ruger’s .357 Magnum Blackhawk (on the left) and their .357 Bisley (on the right). Note the difference in the grip shape and length.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The Rock Island folks guessed that the Ruger Bisley would go for between $600 and $900 on their website before the auction.\u00a0 I bid $600.\u00a0 I wanted it, but not so badly that I was willing to go crazy, which is kind of what my previous results told me you had to be to win in the Rock Island crazy competition.\u00a0 To my great surprise, I won the Bisley with my $600 bid.\u00a0\u00a0Then I received the emailed invoice and I was even more surprised.\u00a0 There was a 17.5% buyer premium, which tacked another $105 to the price.\u00a0 There was a 3.5% credit card fee, so that was $21.\u00a0 The gun had to ship 2nd day air to my FFL, and that was $46.\u00a0 There was insurance, and that added $7.05.\u00a0 And of course, the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia sales tax for another $60.39.\u00a0 My $600 Bisley suddenly became an $839.44 toy and it hadn’t even arrived.\u00a0 When it did, there was the California DOJ fee and the FFL transfer fee ($74.90).\u00a0 My $600 Bisley was now up to $914.34.\u00a0 I guess that’s okay, though.\u00a0 If I had seen a .357 Ruger Bisley in new condition for a thousand bucks, I would have pulled the trigger (literally and figuratively) and felt good about it.\u00a0 In that sense, I was $85.66 ahead of the game.<\/p>\n

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Another difference between Ruger’s standard .357 Magnum Blackhawk and the Bisley is the cylinder. The standard Blackhawk has a fluted cylinder; the Bisley has an unfluted and roll-engraved cylinder.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

When I saw the gun in person (the day I started my 1o-day waiting period), I was blown away (figuratively speaking, of course).\u00a0 I could see that it was in excellent condition.\u00a0 The quality, fit, and finish are light years ahead of what Ruger is producing these days.\u00a0 You’ll recall that when I lost the Hank Williams Auction I bought a new Ruger .357 Blackhawk and its quality was terrible.\u00a0 The Ruger Bisley’s quality appears to be much better in both fit and finish.\u00a0 I looked up the Bisley’s serial number on Ruger’s website and learned that my gun was manufactured in 1986; I guess Ruger cared more about what was leaving the factory back then.<\/p>\n

I’ve been to the range a couple of times with my Bisley.\u00a0 On my first day out with the new-to-me Ruger, one of my friends (a bench rest shooter) came over to watch.\u00a0 There was an old bowling pin laying on its side on the 100-yard line. You know the situation…like the bad guy in an old western movie, it was just begging to be shot. I asked my friend to spot for me.\u00a0 The first shot went high, kicking up a dust cloud about three feet above the pin.\u00a0 I held lower and my second shot sent up another dust cloud two feet below the pin.\u00a0 Okay, I had the elevation dialed in (I wasn’t actually adjusting the Bisley’s sights; I was just holding the front post at different heights).\u00a0 My third shot hit just to the right.\u00a0 On my fourth shot I nailed it, sharply kicking the bowling pin back 10 yards and spinning it violently.\u00a0 Now, just the pin base was facing me, presenting a 3-inch diameter circle.\u00a0 \u201cOkay, let\u2019s see you make that shot,\u201d my friend said.\u00a0 I did, and the pin was kicked back another 10 yards.\u00a0 I looked back and smiled.\u00a0 \u201cPiece of cake,\u201d I said, and we both had a good laugh.<\/p>\n

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25-yard targets shot with the .357 Magnum Ruger Blackhawk (left) and the .357 Magnum Ruger Bisley (right).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

On a subsequent range outing I compared the Bisley’s accuracy to the regular Blackhawk using the same heavy .357 Magnum load in both revolvers (8.0 grains of Unique and the Hornady 158-grain XTP jacketed hollow point bullet).\u00a0 They both shoot groups that were about the same size, and both are biased with the sights adjusted as far as they will go.\u00a0 The regular Blackhawk shoots high at 25 yards with the rear sight all the way down (the front sight is not tall enough).\u00a0 The Blackhawk prints about 3 inches high at 25 yards with the rear sight adjusted as low as it will go.\u00a0 I’ve contacted Ruger and they sent me their shortest rear sight blade for the Blackhawk, but that’s the one the revolver already had in it.\u00a0 Custom gunsmiths offer a taller front sight (Fermin Garza comes to mind), but I don’t know if I want to do that.\u00a0 It’s custom work I shouldn’t have to pay for.<\/p>\n

The Bisley’s elevation is okay at 25 yards, but it shoots to about one inch to the left at 25 yards.\u00a0 When I received the revolver from Rock Island Auctions, the rear sight had been cranked almost all the way to the right by the former owner.\u00a0 \u00a0He ran out of adjustment range and the gun still shoots to the left of my aim point.\u00a0 I thought that the leftward bias could be due to a poor ejector rod shroud fit, or it may just be due to the fact that I was shooting max loads and it’s how the gun reacts in my hand.\u00a0 I fired a few rounds of .38 Special wadcutters and the gun still shot to the left, so I don’t think it is a function of how hot a load I’m shooting or how it reacts to my grip.\u00a0 Then I took the ejector rod shroud off to see if that would make a difference.\u00a0 The ejector rod shroud was very poorly fit to the Bisley and it was pulling the barrel to the right, but when I took it off, the point of impact did not change.\u00a0 You would think the manufacturer would deliver a gun that shot to a point that was within the gun’s adjustable sight range.\u00a0 I’ve been inside a revolver manufacturing facility (not Ruger), and all they do is proof each gun with a high pressure load; that other manufacturer did not check where the gun printed.\u00a0 Ruger evidently does not, either.<\/p>\n

The regular Ruger Blackhawk ejects all cases easily (even with the max loads I was using).\u00a0 \u00a0The Bisley does not.\u00a0 With the max loads I shot in the Bisley, one chamber wants to hang on to the cartridge case.\u00a0 \u00a0Less than max loads (38 Special and mid-range .357 mag loads) eject satisfactorily from the Bisley.\u00a0 \u00a0The Bisley has a sloppy surface finish inside its chambers (there are machine marks from the chamber reaming operation).\u00a0 It shouldn’t have left the factory back in 1986 like that, but it did.<\/p>\n

There’s one other quality-related observation on the Bisley I should mention.\u00a0 The Bisley makes a firing pin primer indentation in the primer that is bigger and deeper than any I have ever seen.\u00a0 Looking at the firing pin after it has been hit by the hammer, it looks bigger and sticks out of the breech face more than I am used to seeing.\u00a0 I had a bunch of max load .357 rounds with Aventuras primers I had assembled earlier, and Bisley pierced the primers on the first five (so I didn’t shoot any more of those).\u00a0 The firing pin is smooth and round (there are no sharp edges on it); it’s just taking the primer cup material near enough to its yield point that the pressure takes it the rest of the way.\u00a0 \u00a0These same cartridges worked fine in my regular (i.e., non-Bisley) Blackhawk with no pierced primers, and the same .357 load with CCI primers and Winchester primers worked fine in the Bisley.\u00a0 Note to self:\u00a0 Don’t use Aventuras primers for hot .357 loads in the Bisley.<\/p>\n

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The Bisley’s firing pin in the extended position. It’s smooth, but big.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
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Pierced primers on .357 Magnum cartridges loaded with 8.0 grains of Unique, the 158-grain Hornady XTP jacketed hollow point bullet, and Aventuras primers.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

So there you have it.\u00a0 My knowledge base on the Ruger .357 revolvers continues to grow (and yours does, too, if you’re reading this).\u00a0 I’m still looking for that perfect .357 Magnum revolver.\u00a0 \u00a0I’ve owned a bunch over the last 50+ years, and I’ll keep looking.\u00a0 I still dream about wandering into a rural pawnshop somewhere and finding a brass grip Blackhawk like that Hank Williams, Jr., Ruger for $200.\u00a0 You never know.<\/p>\n

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