{"id":31453,"date":"2025-11-19T00:01:30","date_gmt":"2025-11-19T08:01:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/?p=31453"},"modified":"2025-11-07T15:06:04","modified_gmt":"2025-11-07T23:06:04","slug":"exnotes-solar-series-lithium-batteries","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/2025\/11\/19\/exnotes-solar-series-lithium-batteries\/","title":{"rendered":"ExNotes Solar Series: Lithium Batteries"},"content":{"rendered":"<h6>By Joe Gresh<\/h6>\n<p>I finally made the leap. My solar system went online in 2018 and except for a few snow days has produced reliable power in all that time. We&#8217;ve had around 30 power outages at the grid-tied Carriage House (some 5 minutes, some 5 hours) during the same time span.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31461\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31461\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-31461 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2286A-600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"363\" srcset=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2286A-600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2286A-600-300x182.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31461\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The old, lead-acid bank gave great service but it is time to step into the future. I&#8217;ll be keeping the best of the old ones for a power source in the green house.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Initially we went with plain old lead-acid batteries because they were a third the cost of lithium batteries. The lead-acids worked well and since they&#8217;ve been around hundreds of years it was easy to predict performance and longevity.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31458\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31458\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-31458 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2284-600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"429\" srcset=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2284-600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2284-600-300x215.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31458\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The jumper cables are messy but effective.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31460\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31460\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-31460 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2285-600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"494\" srcset=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2285-600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2285-600-300x247.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31460\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The old bank was four boxes on two shelves. I never did get around to filling the last box.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The battery bank started small with just 4 batteries and grew with our budget to 12 total. There are two of the original 2018 batteries still functioning and I&#8217;ve replaced three batteries that failed. It&#8217;s easy to tell a bad lead-acid in a battery bank: it&#8217;s the hot one.<\/p>\n<p>I haven&#8217;t been religious about topping up the electrolyte so some of the batteries might have failed due to misuse. Regardless, I&#8217;m happy with their performance and the lead-acids did me right.<\/p>\n<p>Last year I noticed lithium batteries dropping in price. They ended up costing the same as the cheap Walmart lead-acids I was using. With new tariffs looming I decided to make the switch. I bought one batch in January and another batch in March, depending on whatever sale was on. My cost averaged around $119 per 12-volt, 100-ah battery. I wasn&#8217;t brand loyal, whatever was cheapest was fine by me.<\/p>\n<p>With winter approaching and long cold nights of pipe heaters draining storage I built an insulated box to hold the new batteries. Advantages with the lithium are 16 batteries fit on one shelf, weight is half of lead acid, and there&#8217;s no need for a sealed battery box as there&#8217;s no acid to leak.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31463\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31463\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-31463 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2292-600-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2292-600-1.jpg 600w, https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2292-600-1-300x254.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31463\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Most of this was replaced by copper bars.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31457\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31457\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-31457 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2245-600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"492\" srcset=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2245-600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2245-600-300x246.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31457\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lots of copper buss bars took a couple days to make. Foam on top to prevent shorts in case a chunk of metal lands on the bank.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I also took the opportunity to clean up the installation, getting rid of messy-looking jumper cables and replacing them with solid copper buss bars. With everything on one shelf I eliminated several feet of cabling which can only be good.<\/p>\n<p>Lithium batteries need a bit more charging voltage so I cranked up the solar regulator a 1\/2 volt or so. I also reset the inverter charger setting to one more like lithium.<\/p>\n<p>The batteries have sat on the shed floor for 6-8 months so when I connected them up to the solar they sucked a steady diet of 55 amps from the sun.<\/p>\n<p>Theoretically I have 19,000 watts of storage now, more than double the 7200 watts of the old, lead-acid battery bank. In actuality it&#8217;s probably 80% of 19,000 watts because you don&#8217;t want to drain the batteries flat.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31462\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31462\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-31462 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2287-600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"556\" srcset=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2287-600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2287-600-300x278.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31462\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The new box is 1-inch foam skinned with sheet metal. Hopefully it will slow a fire.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31464\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31464\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-31464 size-full\" style=\"font-weight: bold; background-color: transparent; text-align: inherit;\" src=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2293-600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2293-600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/IMG_2293-600-300x185.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31464\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">All the batteries on one shelf cuts down on cabling. Buss bars make a tidier installation. With no acid fumes connections should stay cleaner. What&#8217;s not to like?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Some disadvantages to lithium batteries are they are more affected by cold temperatures (hence the insulated battery box), they are limited to 100-amp output per battery (not a problem as my inverter draws 250-amp max), and I can&#8217;t really think of any others.<\/p>\n<p>Time will tell if the lithium batteries last the 10-year claimed life span. I&#8217;ve pre-tested each battery&#8217;s load capacity and marked the results on top of the battery. I should be able to compare results in the future to see if individual battery performance degrades. All in, I&#8217;m happy with the new batteries. Hopefully I&#8217;ll have about a 3-day reserve for those snow days.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and those tariffs? 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My solar system went online in 2018 and except for a few snow days has produced reliable power in all that time. We&#8217;ve had around 30 power outages at the grid-tied Carriage House (some 5 minutes, some 5 hours) during the same time span. 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