{"id":7483,"date":"2020-02-10T05:53:28","date_gmt":"2020-02-10T13:53:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/?p=7483"},"modified":"2020-02-10T06:10:28","modified_gmt":"2020-02-10T14:10:28","slug":"the-quest-for-mini-14-accuracy-continues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/2020\/02\/10\/the-quest-for-mini-14-accuracy-continues\/","title":{"rendered":"The Quest for Mini 14 Accuracy Continues…"},"content":{"rendered":"

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If you follow the ExNotes blog, you know I’m still chasing accuracy improvements for my Mini 14.\u00a0 The latest upgrades include glass bedding the receiver and installing a smaller gas port.\u00a0 They helped, as will be described here. \u00a0 What’s next?\u00a0 Read on.<\/p>\n

The Accuracy Systems International Gas Port Kit<\/h2>\n

I bought a new set of Mini 14 gas ports from Accuracy Systems International, an outfit that specializes in Mini 14 accuracy upgrades. \u00a0 The gas port is essentially an orifice that restricts the flow of combustion gas to the rifle’s op rod. \u00a0 The stock Ruger gas port orifice is huge (it’s probably something like 0.090 inches in diameter).\u00a0 That is because Ruger wants the rifle to function with any kind of ammo, but the huge stock gas port throws spent brass into the next county and it slams the barreled action around in the stock (that hurts accuracy, as the receiver may not be sitting in the same spot after each round).\u00a0 The ASI gas port kit costs $30, but it’s more like $40 after including the shipping and handling charge.\u00a0 That’s a rip because the thing fits in a business envelope, but hey, it is what it is.<\/p>\n

Glass Bedding the Mini 14<\/h2>\n

I bought an Acraglas bedding kit from Brownells and glass bedded the receiver in the stock.\u00a0 I’ve glass bedded bolt action rifles before, but I had never done a Garand-type action. \u00a0 There’s no recoil lug like a bolt action rifle has, so the glass bedding involved delicately laying in the epoxy on the interior sides of the stock and the area above the stock that mates with the receiver. This was something new for me, and I don’t mind telling you that I was plenty nervous about getting the barreled action out of the stock after the epoxy cured.\u00a0 I need not have worried; the release agent worked like it was supposed to and the bedding job turned out well.\u00a0 There is zero movement between the receiver and the Mini 14’s Circassian walnut stock now, and that’s what I wanted.<\/p>\n

Tuning The Mini 14 Gas Port<\/h2>\n

After the bedding job, it was time to start playing with the different gas port orifices. \u00a0The Accuracy Systems International kit includes four gas ports (0.035, 0.040, 0.045, and 0.050 inches), and the drill is to find the smallest one that works.\u00a0 The stock Ruger gas plug orifice is huge (as mentioned above), and ejection from a stock Mini 14 can only be described as violent.\u00a0 I tried the 0.040 and then the 0.045, but both would occasionally fail to fully cycle. With the 0.050 orifice, the rifle didn\u2019t have any failures.\u00a0 I noticed that sometimes the last round out of a magazine just lays the brass on top of the follower after being extracted. That\u2019s no big deal. My Mini 14 now throws the brass about 20 feet to the right (maybe less, because the brass was landing on concrete and rolling around a bit).\u00a0 It’s a substantial improvement.<\/p>\n

100 Yards From The Bench<\/h2>\n

I first fired at a 100 yard target from a bench rest.\u00a0 Surprisingly, the bedding and the new orifice only shifted the group a little. \u00a0 The rifle now shoots a bit high, but the\u00a0group size (absent a couple of flyers, one high and one low, most likely due to me) is about the size of the 9-ring on a 100-yard target (and that’s an improvement). Most of the dispersion is lateral, and that’s a change from what the rifle used to do.\u00a0 If I practiced a bit more, I\u2019d do better.\u00a0 If I drop the rear sight a couple of clicks I should be right on the money. \u00a0This was my 100-yard target from the bench:<\/p>\n

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The accuracy wasn’t the greatest I’ve ever achieved with an iron-sight rifle (my 80-year-old Mosin-Nagant will consistently keep its hits in the 10-ring), but it was an improvement over what the Mini 14 had done prior to the bedding job and the smaller gas port orifice. \u00a0 Things are moving in the right direction.<\/p>\n

The B-21 Department of Corrections Target<\/h2>\n

Next up was the California Department of Corrections B-21 target my CDC buddy told me about.\u00a0 The California CDC uses the Mini 14 as an issue weapon, and the B-21 is their periodic qualification target.\u00a0 I bought some of these targets at Alco last week and I wanted to see how I would to.\u00a0 My CDC friend told me that CDC officers qualify with their Mini 14 rifles at 50 and 100 yards, from both the standing and kneeling position.<\/p>\n

I put my target out at 100 yards and tried shooting\u00a0from the kneeling position.\u00a0 It felt very awkward to me and I was terrible.\u00a0 Oh, I put rounds on the target, but this kneeling position is not my cup of tea. I used to be able to do it when I was in the Army, but I weighed 50 lbs less and I bent a lot easier in those days.\u00a0 I\u2019m not even sure what knee is supposed to be on the ground.\u00a0 Maybe I need Colin Kaepernick to tutor me.<\/p>\n

Then I went to the standing position, shooting offhand, and I found I could keep my shots in the bottle (as my CDC buddy described the target). I might be able to qualify as a CDC officer if I could get on top of this kneeling position business. The little .223 holes on the target below are a hard to see (my apologies for the cell phone photography), but trust me, they’re on there.\u00a0 All the ones that are outside the bottle were from the kneeling position.<\/p>\n

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You know, when I first saw that B-21 target, I was amused at how big it is (it’s literally life-sized). \u00a0 Try shooting it offhand from the standing position with iron sights, though, and the old B-21 suddenly gets a lot smaller. \u00a0\u00a0At 100 yards, I couldn\u2019t see any of the lines on the target.\u00a0 It was just a big black mass, and I tried to hold in the center of it as I fired. \u00a0 It was swimming in the sights, but I was able to connect.\u00a0 Mind you, I had not shot offhand like this in years.\u00a0 The rifle seems to be grouping a little high shooting offhand (as it did from the bench).\u00a0 But it is, as the saying goes, close enough for government work.<\/p>\n

What do you think?\u00a0 Would I be able to run with the big dogs in the CDC?\u00a0 My CDC buddy told me I’d qualify expert.\u00a0 Maybe he was just being nice.<\/p>\n

Future Mini 14 Accuracy Improvement Thoughts<\/h2>\n

I am thinking about what else might make a difference in accuracy on the Mini 14. The action is bedded and I\u2019ve experimented with different loads until the cows came home (for your information, my best load is with a max ARComp charge and the Hornady 162 grain full metal jacket bullet). I sort and trim the brass I reload (and that makes a difference).\u00a0 I\u2019ve found the gas port that works best (it’s the 0.050-inch orifice).\u00a0 So what\u2019s left?<\/p>\n

I\u2019m wondering about the fit of the .223 cartridge in the chamber. The Mini 14 has a loose chamber to make sure everything feeds reliably, so I\u2019m wondering if it\u2019s too loose for optimal accuracy. My thought is to try neck sizing only. That’s when you only size the cartridge neck down (to hold the bullet in place) but leave the rest of the brass case enlarged, as it came from the rifle after the last firing.\u00a0 I know you usually would not do that in a semi-auto rifle, but I\u2019m guessing there\u2019s plenty of room in that chamber. I\u2019m thinking I\u2019ll load 20 rounds with neck sizing only and see how that goes.\u00a0 I guess I could try chambering an empty case previously fired in the Mini 14 and see if it chambers and extracts easily. If it does, neck-sized-only loaded rounds probably will, too.<\/p>\n

Sometimes you can seat the bullets out further in the case to improve accuracy.\u00a0 You can\u2019t mess around with bullet eating depth on a Mini 14, though. If you seat the bullets out any further, the cartridges won\u2019t fit in the magazine, so that\u2019s out as a potential accuracy improvement.<\/p>\n

Next up is the muzzle brake. This thing has a gigondo muzzle brake (see the photo above) that I had installed to replace the stock flash suppressor.\u00a0 I had to do that to bring the rifle into the People’s Republik of Kalifornia (a flash suppressor on a semi auto rifle is illegal in California, a stupid law if ever there was one). The muzzle brake does not make contact with the bullet on the way out of the barrel, but I\u2019m wondering if it somehow disturbs the bullet’s flight as it exits the muzzle. I think I\u2019ll Google \u201cmuzzle brake impact on accuracy\u201d and see if there is anything out there on this.\u00a0 (Note: I did, and there’s evidence that this can happen.)<\/p>\n

The other thing I\u2019m wondering is if the guy who installed the brake damaged the muzzle when he installed it. I can\u2019t see the muzzle in there. It\u2019s not going to be easy to get it (the muzzle brake) off the barrel, but that may be the next step. \u00a0The muzzle brake has to be affecting the barrel’s harmonics, too, because it is so massive. Maybe I\u2019ll just take it off and see what that does.<\/p>\n

The Mini 14’s bolt feels loose when the rifle is in battery, but my Garand is like that, too, as well as many of the bolt guns I have. I don\u2019t know if that is playing an accuracy role.\u00a0 There’s nothing I can do about it, though, so that’s something that will remain a mystery.<\/p>\n

I’m wondering about the front sight, too.\u00a0 It’s wide.\u00a0 At 100 yards, the width of the front sight blade is three or four times the diameter of the bullseye.\u00a0 My M1A has a much thinner blade for the front sight, and it seems to be a lot easier to shoot small groups with it. Looking at the 100-yard bullseye target shown above, most of the Mini 14’s dispersion is left and right; I’m thinking a thinner front sight might cut down on that lateral dispersion.<\/p>\n

I’ve put a lot of lead downrange with my Mini 14, probably something well north of 10,000 rounds.\u00a0 Maybe the barrel is just worn out.\u00a0 Eyeballing it, though, it looks good, and accuracy keeps getting better with incorporation of some of the things I’ve done.\u00a0 But that’s a lot of shooting.\u00a0 It could be that a new barrel would make a difference.<\/p>\n

Any other ideas?\u00a0 Hey, let’s hear your comments.\u00a0 I’ve shared what I know, and I could use your help.<\/p>\n

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See our other Tales of the Gun reports (including more on the mighty Mini 14) here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

If you follow the ExNotes blog, you know I’m still chasing accuracy improvements for my Mini 14.\u00a0 The latest upgrades include glass bedding the receiver and installing a smaller gas port.\u00a0 They helped, as will be described here. \u00a0 What’s next?\u00a0 Read on. The Accuracy Systems International Gas Port Kit I bought a new set … Continue reading “The Quest for Mini 14 Accuracy Continues…”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":true,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[84],"tags":[1059,347,1058],"class_list":["post-7483","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-guns","tag-accuracy-systems-international","tag-mini-14","tag-mini-14-accuracy"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7483","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7483"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7483\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7496,"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7483\/revisions\/7496"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7483"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7483"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/exhaustnotes.us\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7483"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}