Four .45 ACP Revolvers

By Joe Berk

When most folks think of the .45 ACP cartridge, they think of the 1911 and other semi-auto handguns.  The big .45 also makes an ideal wheelgun cartridge, especially in N-frame Smith and Wessons.  I own four (the ones you see above) and I shoot them all.

The .45 ACP Revolver Story

Smith and Wesson forayed into the .45 ACP revolver business when Colt couldn’t keep up with the demand for its 1911 semi-auto in World War I.  The Army asked both Smith and Colt to make .45 ACP versions of their large-frame double action handguns, both manufacturers did, and the Army designated both revolvers as the Model 1917.

After the World War I, the 1917 revolvers became available to civilians.  Colt left the .45 ACP revolver business, but Smith and Wesson soldiered on, and to this day Smith still offers several different models.

Shooting .45 ACP ammo in a revolver requires a clip.  You have to snap the rounds into the clip so they will fire and extract in a revolver.  At one point, the 1917 revolvers were popular enough that Remington introduced the .45 AutoRim cartridge, which is a rimmed version of the .45 ACP that allows use of the cartridge in a revolver without the clip.

.45 ACP rounds in a star clip. I have a tool that makes it easy to insert cartridges in the clips and remove the empty cases after shooting. In World War I, clips held only three rounds (you needed two to load six rounds in a 1917 revolver).
A .45 ACP round (left) and a .45 AutoRim cartridge (right). Note the difference in rim configuration at the base of each cartridge.  I’ve experimented with both ACP and AutoRim brass in my .45 ACP revolvers; both deliver comparable accuracy.

Over the years Smith and Wesson has manufactured several .45 ACP revolver models.  I’d like to own them all, but there’s only so much room in the safe and Susie’s willingness to indulge my gun collecting.  The four this blog addresses are:

      • The Model of 1955
      • A Jovino snubnose
      • Smith’s reincarnated and Turnbull-finished Model 1917
      • The Performance Center Model 625.

Info on each follows.

The Model of 1955

Smith introduced the Model of 1955 as an alternative to the 1911 semi-auto for bullseye target competition.  Mine was made in the 1970s.   I bought it from Rutgers Guns in Highland Park, New Jersey shortly after I left the Army (Rutgers Guns had no connection to Rutgers University other than geography).  I paid around $200 for it new.

A typical Model of 1955 three-shot 50-foot group. This gun shoots everything well.

The Model of 1955 has Smith and Wesson’s target trigger and target hammer, and it has target sights (with a Patridge style sight in front).  It originally had checkered grips, but shortly after I bought it I put a set of smooth grips on it.  I think the smooth grips both look and feel better.  Back in the day, you could purchase those grips new for around $25.  Today, a set from that era (like the ones you see above) would fetch $300 to $400.  The Model of 1955 has the highly polished and deep blue finish that is the hallmark of earlier Smith and Wesson revolvers.  It is a beautiful handgun.

I never tried a load in the Model of 1955 that didn’t do well; every powder and every bullet combination I loaded grouped well.  In the nearly 50-years that I’ve owned this revolver, I’ve only seen one other guy on the range with the same gun.  I asked him what load he used and he told me the gun likes everything; every load he ever tried shot well, too.  That said, the load I use is typically 4.2 grains of Bullseye and a 200-grain semi-wadcutter bullet.  I use Lee’s Deluxe 4-die set and I crimp the bullets with their factory taper crimp die to assure easy chambering and to prevent bullet pull under recoil (although recoil with this load is light).

The Jovino Snubbie

The Jovino snubnose revolver is a rare animal, one of 650 customized by New York City’s John Jovino Gun Shop (which no longer exists; when it closed, Jovino was the oldest gun shop in the country).

The Jovino snubnose .45 ACP revolver. It’s a real rarity.

Back in the 1980s, Jovino’s built custom guns.  Their main clients were the NYPD and other police departments, so many of the Jovino customs tended to be duty-oriented carry weapons.  Jovino bought 6 1/2-inch barreled Smiths like the one you see above and turned them into 2 1/2-inch snubnose revolvers. The conversion was not just a simple chop job, though.  Here’s what Jovino did to these guns:

      • Shortened the factory barrel to 2 1/2 inches.
      • Installed a crane lock to replace the ejector rod lock.
      • Relocated the red ramp front sight.
      • Rounded the butt to the S&W K frame round butt configuration.
      • Tuned the double and single action trigger.
      • Radiused the hammer spur.
      • Polished the trigger face.
      • Fitted Pachmayr rubber grips.
      • Reblued the cut barrel (the new bluing is actually a bit darker and more polished than the stock bluing).

The original grips that came with the Jovino snubbie were rubber Pachmayrs, but I wanted the look of ivory grips. That’s when I found out that the Jovino guns did not have a standard N-frame rounded grip profile.  It took a lot of patient sanding and polishing to get the fake ivory grips to fit.  I like the look.

The grips look good. So does the revolver. One of the Jovino custom touches was to round the hammer spur profile. I like what they did.

The double action trigger on the Jovino is incredibly smooth.  The slick trigger and the red ramp and white outline sights work together well, and the gun is very accurate. I’ve never seen another one of these guns on the range, so the exclusivity factor is there, too.

Smith and Wesson’s Reincarnated 1917

Smith’s resurrected Model 1917 .45 ACP revolver, shown here with AutoRim ammo.

About 20 years ago Smith and Wesson introduced a reissue of its World War I Model 1917 for a very short time, and as part of that deal, the new Smith included Turnbull color case hardening.  I saw one of the Turnbull 1917 revolvers at a local Bass Pro and it sat in the display case for months.  Bass Pro had it marked down to $695 and it still hadn’t moved.  I asked the kid behind the counter what they would take for it; he read the price tag and told me $695.  Would you consider less, I asked.  I’d have to ask the manager, he said, looking at me and not moving.  Why don’t you do that, I answered.  He finally realized his job was to sell stuff and I was a real live customer, so he took off in search of the boss.

“We’ll take 30 off,” Junior said when he returned.

“Is that percent, or dollars?” I asked.

He smiled.  “Dollars.”  It was still a hell of a deal, so I pulled the trigger.  Today if I wanted to sell this gun I could probably get $1500 for it.  But I don’t want to sell it, and I never will.

Another view of the 1917, its glorious Turnbull color case hardening, and .45 ACP ammo loaded in clips.

I don’t shoot my Turnbull 1917 all that often; my preference is the Model 625 described below.  The 1917 groups well, but its small checkered grips are punishing.  This is another cool gun.  I’ve never seen another one on the range.

Smith’s Performance Center Model 625

The Performance Center is Smith’s marketing shtick for guns that have been slicked up a bit, which is Smith and Wesson’s way of saying they build Performance Center guns with the attention to detail that used to be standard on all Smith and Wessons.  This one has a good trigger, a different barrel contour, blended edges on the front of the cylinder, and probably a few other niceties I can’t remember right now.

This revolver originally had clown-like, awkward, red-white-and-blue grips.  I quickly swapped the goofy factory grips for what were advertised as rosewood grips from a third-party vendor (they weren’t rosewood at all; they were instead fabricated of cheap laminated and dyed wood, as I found out when I refinished them).   But my custom grips fit my hands much better, and this is an extremely accurate revolver.  I also installed a red ramp front sight and a white outline rear site.  The white outline rear sight Smith sells today has barely-visible gray lines and the red is not as bright as it used to be, but they are better than the gold dot front sight and plain black rear sight that came on the gun (I don’t like gold dot front sights).

Six rounds at 50 feet, standing, from the Performance Center .45 ACP Model 625.  This revolver has grips I refinished and a red ramp and white outline set of sights.  The target shown here was shot with the 200-grain semi-wadcutter bullet and 6.0 grains of Unique.

My usual accuracy load for the 625 is a cast 200-grain semiwadcutter bullet (sized to .452 inches) over 4.2 grains of Bullseye.   Another load that works well is the same bullet with 6.0 grains of Unique (it’s the load I used on the target above).


After reading about the above Smith and Wesson .45 ACP revolvers, you might have two questions:

      • Which is my favorite?
      • Which do I prefer:  A .45 ACP revolver or a 1911?

The answer to both questions is:  Yes.


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SIG’s M18 versus the S&W Shield

I had a chance to fire the new SIG M18 9mm handgun, which was recently added to the California Department of Justice roster of approved handguns here in the People’s Republik.   I was impressed with the M18’s accuracy, grouping, comfort level, feel, and sights.  I love the desert tan colors.  I was not impressed with the trigger (more on that in a bit).

It was a good day on my local indoor pistol range, and as I was leaving, my good buddy Shannon asked where I’ve been (I hadn’t been there in a few weeks).  “Overseas,” I told her.  She then pointed to the new M18 SIGs they had in the display case and asked if I’d like to try one.  That reminded me of the old joke about the guy with the wooden eye.  I responded with an affirmative and rhetorical, “Would I?”

The venerable 1911. It’s chambered in .45 ACP.  All steel and with a Parkerized finish, as God intended. In my opinion, you can’t improve on perfection, but the Army had other ideas.

A bit of background:  The US Army and I have something in common:  We change handguns on a regular basis.  The Army had been using the venerable .45 ACP 1911 since about, well, 1911.   It served the Army well (and still serves well in certain special ops units), but the Army decided it wanted something better.  That led to adoption of the 9mm Beretta 92 (designated as the M9 for the military) in 1985.  I never cared for the Beretta, so I’ve never owned one and I can’t tell you anything about how it shoots or feels. The M9 had pushed out my beloved 1911, so I didn’t like it.  Period.  No handling or testing required.

The Army wanted a smaller pistol cartridge, and it settled on the Beretta M9. The M9 has an aluminum frame.  Bob likes it.

The Army quickly decided it didn’t much like the Beretta, either.  But the Army is big and it moves slowly when it’s not lobbying for more funding from Congress, and it wasn’t until 2017 that they decided to go with a militarized version of the 9mm SIG P320.  There are two versions of the new military handgun:  The M17, which has a 4.7-inch barrel, and the M18, with a 3.9-inch barrel.  Both are full sized handguns with magazines carrying a gazillion rounds, and until recently, neither was available to lowly and untrustworthy civilians here in the People’s Republik of Kalifornia.  Nah, scratch that.  Lowly or not, trustworthy or not, no California civilians could purchase either of the new SIGS, although weirdly, we could purchase the civilian gun from which it was derived, the SIG P320.  Go figure.

The SIG P320, the gun the M17 and M18 handguns are based on.  All three guns (the P320, the M17, and the M18) have a polymer gripframe.  You can tell they’re swell (I’m not going to explain that comment; you have to be old enough to get it).
The 9mm SIG M17. Note the longer barrel length.
The gun I fired: The SIG M18.

The SIG M18 recently appeared on the California Department of Justice approved handguns roster.   That’s just a bit on the weird side, too, because the M18 is the version with the shorter (i.e., slightly more concealable) barrel.   You’d think in their wholesome attempts to keep us pure our legislators would have approved the longer-barreled M17.  Maybe they will in the future.

The Rock Island Compact 1911. This is a short barreled, shorter grip frame 1911 chambered in .45 ACP.
My Smith and Wesson Shield. It has a very short barrel compared to either the SIG M17 or M18, which makes my shooting with it a bit less accurate.

I had fun on the range.  I shot a box of .45 ammo in my Compact 1911, and then two boxes of ammo in my Smith and Wesson Shield.  I was doing pretty good with both, too.  It’s a pleasant way to spend an afternoon.  As I was leaving the range, Shannon told me about the new M18s they had in stock and offered a trial run, so I put a box of 50 rounds through one of them.

I used a 6:00 hold on the orange bullseye on both targets, and I fired 50 rounds at each. The Shield target is on the left; the SIG target is on the right. Both guns are good enough; the M18 is surprisingly accurate.

As I said above, I didn’t care for the M18 trigger (the M18 is a striker-fired handgun; give me a hammer-fired gun any day).  But the thing was accurate, even with the Joe Biden trigger (it was clumsy and creepy).  I put nearly all 50 rounds through a single jagged hole at my point of aim 10 yards downrange, and then I started hitting low with the last few rounds.   The few that dropped a bit below the orange bullseye were entirely due to me being tired and shaky (it wasn’t the gun; I was coming up on 200 rounds in that range session and I’m an old man).  The bottom line:  I like the new M18.  A lot.  I may buy one somewhere down the road, unless the M17 gets approved in California first.


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The 9mm 1911 Resurrection

By Joe Berk

As mentioned in recent blogs on my 9mm Springfield Armory 1911, I took the gun to TJ’s Custom Gunworks to have it repaired and customized.  I have the gun back now and I am very satisfied with the work.

When I took the 1911 to TJ, I asked him to repair the damage I did to my 1911 and to add several custom touches.  That’s what he did, and I’ll describe them below.   Most of the photos in this blog are from TJ.   I took a few, too.

Fortunately, the 1911’s barrel was not damaged (the cartridge blew apart; the barrel and chamber survived).  TJ polished the barrel, the chamber, and the ramp.  The reinvigorated barrel looks great and it adds to the 1911’s appearance.

The polished 1911 barrel.
It looks great, doesn’t it?

TJ polished the 1911’s ramp and chamber.  This helps to prevent feed failures and assists in extraction.  The polished ramp also helps to prevent bullet pushback into the case as the ramp is pushed from the magazine into the chamber.

The feed ramp before polishing.
The feed ramp after polishing.

The trigger was in bad shape after the 9mm cartridge went into its sudden unintended disassembly mode.  TJ cleaned it up, but I’m going to have him fit a new target trigger at some point in the future.

The rigger before TJ cleaned and finished it.
The trigger and its bracket after brushing and polishing.

While TJ was in the gun, he removed and replaced the Springfield Armory firing pin and firing pin spring (which he does on all the Springfield Armory 1911s that come into his shop).   Springfield uses a titanium firing pin and a heavier firing pin spring, which is a bad combination.  I’ve had occasional misfires with my Springfield, and the primers have previously always shown light firing pin strikes.  With the new Wilson firing pin and firing pin spring TJ installed, that problem is in the rear-view mirror (where it belongs).

TJ found that the extractor on my Springfield Armory 1911 was terrible.  I thought that might be due the base of the cartridge bursting, but it was not.  It was just a factory goof up. The photo TJ included shows the extractor about as I remembered it before the event that set all this in motion.  The extractor had been extremely difficult to remove from the slide when I disassembled it for cleaning, but I never thought to check if it was engaging the cartridge (the gun had been ejecting).  You would think an outfit like Springfield would know what they are doing in this area, but apparently they did not.  TJ fit a new extractor to fix that problem.

This photo shows the original extractor not touching the cartridge case at all. It appears that the claw is just too short.
The new extractor TJ installed; note that it now has a firm grip on the case rim.
Another shot of the extractor on the case rim. It’s amazing the cartridges were extracting and ejecting before this fix.  They were flying everywhere.
The old extractor is on top; the new one is on the bottom. Note that the old extractor was not reaching in to engage the case.

Ejection is way better now.  The gun drops all the cases in the same spot just to my right (they don’t go flying all over creation like they used to).  It makes scooping up my brass a lot easier.

Reinstalling the slide release on my Springfield was difficult.  The slide release plunger was too long and the camming surfaces on the underside of the slide release were not cut at the correct angles.  TJ reconfigured both.  The slide release snaps into place in a very slick manner now.  There’s no more worry about scratching the receiver (the so-called idiot scratch) when the gun is reassembled.

The slide release plunger, as delivered by Springfield Armory, was originally too long. It made installing the slide release problematic. TJ shortened and recontoured it.
The slide release has a contoured bevel to push the slide release plunger in when the slide release is installed. As delivered by Springfield Armory, the angles were incorrect. TJ recontoured this area to make installing the slide release much easier.

TJ polished and fit a new hammer, which looks better than the original.  He also lightened the trigger pull.  The new trigger is light and I like it.

A polished hammer and sear.
The new hammer. It looks good.

The Springfield Armory 9mm 1911 came from the factory with a two-piece guide rod, which I hated.  It would constantly unscrew, even after applying blue Loctite after each cleaning.  The stock Springfield guide rod needed an Allen wrench to unscrew and remove it (Springfield provided one with the gun).  The gun required doing this to be able to rotate the barrel bushing after depressing the guide rod plug.  In my opinion, two-piece guide rods are a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.  I don’t know why manufacturers fit them to new guns and I don’t why anybody would want one. I asked TJ to fit a polished one-piece guide rod to my 1911, and to make it short enough so that I could rotate the barrel bushing for disassembly without having to unscrew the guide rod.  I like the new set up a lot better.

TJ installed a one-piece guide rod. I like it. The original two-piece guide rod was always unscrewing.
The new guide rod in its bushing. TJ modified it so I could disassemble the 1911 without having to unscrew the guide rod. Not the polished end of the new guide rod, and the polished barrel end.

Finally, TJ polished the slide-to-receiver interface points.  You can see this work in the photos below.

The 1911 slide underside.
The 9mm 1911 receiver.

While TJ had the gun, I ordered new grips and a replacement magazine from the Springfield Armory website.  The original crossed-cannon cocobolo Springfield grips were damaged when the cartridge burst, so I bought another set (they were reasonably priced at $32.95).  The Springfield site also advertised a set of double-diamond checkered cocobolo grips (without the Springfield logo) for $15, so I checked that box, too (I like having an extra set of 1911 grips on hand).  The grips and the new magazine arrived a few days after I ordered them.

I picked up the repaired and reinvigorated 1911 from TJ this week. I’ve already been to the range with it and it works well.  Watch the blog; I’ll post a range report in the near term.  I’ve also had a few more thoughts on what might have caused the burst round that started this adventure, and we’ll have another blog on that as well.  Here are links to our prior blogs on this topic:

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Thoughts on the 9mm Double Charge


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Seeing double? Nope. I liked my 9mm 1911 so much that when I saw the same gun in .45 ACP, I bought it, too. Watch for a report on it in an upcoming ExNotes blog.

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The 2023 MacManus Award

By Joe Berk

One of the best things that’s happened to me is the MacManus Award, which I received in 1973 (50 years ago this year).  Captain Colin D. MacManus was a Rutgers graduate who was killed in action in Vietnam in 1967.  His memory lives on with this award, and CPT MacManus continues to inspire young Army officers.

US Army Captain Colin D. MacManus, Rutgers University ’63.

Each year the MacManus family presented a Colt 1911 to the graduating Rutgers ROTC cadet who held Captain MacManus’ position in the Corps of Cadets, and in 1973 that cadet was me.  It was quite an honor.  We’ve kept the tradition alive, and I’m happy to report that another graduating cadet has been selected and will receive his Colt 1911 this year.

I still have and I still shoot my MacManus 1911, and 50 years after I received it, I can still hit the target.  I had my MacManus 1911 out just last week.

The groups have grown just a bit over the last half century, but I can still do well with my MacManus 1911.

We’ve reported annually on the MacManus award, and if you’d like to read the earlier posts, here they are:

The Colin D. MacManus Award
The 2020 MacManus Award
The 2021 MacManus Award

Keeping this tradition alive is a good thing.  I’m proud of these young folks.

If you are a 1911 enthusiast, we have a lot more good info on 1911 handguns and loads on our Tales of the Gun page.

Two Bodacious Belly Guns

Not too long ago, I posted the Model 60 handjob blog, which was a story about fitting a new hand to the revolver to correct an out-of-time situation.  When I took the reworked Model 60 to the West End Gun Club to check its performance, I brought along my Rock Island Compact 1911.  Both guns are on my concealed carry permit and I thought it might be cool to rapid fire on the police qualification target at 7 yards.

As you can see from the photo above, the guns appear to be comparably sized, but that photo is a bit misleading.  I don’t feel like I’m printing with the Compact 1911 (you know, allowing the gun’s outline to standout against my shirt), but the 1911 does hang heavier and it presents a bigger shape under an untucked shirt.   I’ll get to the specs of both guns in a minute, but first let’s take a look at how they compare on target.  The first target is the Model 60; the second is the Rock Island Compact 1911.

50 rounds, rapid fire, at 7 yards from the Smith and Wesson Model 60 (all fired double action).
50 rounds, rapid fire, at 7 yards from the .45 ACP Rock Island Compact 1911.

I shot both targets using a two-hand hold from the standing position.  Both are accurate and close enough, as they say, for government work.

The loads were fairly stiff.  I used a cast 158-grain truncated cone bullet with 4.4 grains of Unique propellant for my .38 Special ammo, and a 185-grain cast semiwadcutter bullet with 5.0 grains of Bullseye for the .45 ACP.  Given the choice, I wouldn’t want to be hit by either one.  But I’m betting that the 1911 hits harder.

.38 Special and .45 ACP reloads. Both were fairly stout. The 158-grain truncated conical bullet .38 Special loads are potent.  The .45 ACP semiwadcutters come from Jim Gardner’s casting operation, and they are accurate and hard hitting.

The Model 60 Smith and Wesson weighs 19 ounces empty and it carries 5 rounds (which adds another 1.8 ounces, for a total of just under 21 ounces).  The 1911 weighs 34.6 ounces empty and it carries 7 rounds in its 7-round mags (that adds another 3 ounces, for a total of 37.6 ounces).   The loaded 1911 weighs almost twice as much as the loaded Smith and Wesson revolver.  Anything you measure in ounces may not seem like a lot, but trust me, when you carry it all day, it is.  From a weight perspective, the Model 60 has an advantage.

I know all you keyboard commandos want to tell me I could carry 8 rounds in the 1911, but I won’t carry with a loaded chamber in a semi-auto.  Save your breath if you think I should.  The Israelis don’t carry with a round chambered and they seem to know what they’re doing, we didn’t carry with a round chambered when I was in the Army, and I’ve seen more than a few accidental discharges from folks who carried with a round chambered in a semi-auto handgun.  Nope, it’s an empty chamber for me.  Your mileage may vary.

From an accuracy perspective, you can see from the targets above that I shoot the 1911 better.  I don’t think the 1911 is inherently more accurate than the Model 60.  But in my hands, and with my old eyes, I can hold a tighter group with a 1911.  Most of that has to do with my 1911’s sights.  I have a red ramp/white outline set of Millet sights that good buddy TJ (of TJ’s Custom Guns) installed on my 1911, and those things are the best handgun sights I’ve ever used.  The Model 60’s sights…well, let’s just say it’s a game of hide and seek with them.  The 1911 gets the nod from an accuracy perspective.

You might think 7 versus 5 rounds is a tremendous advantage.  On paper, maybe.  In real life, the average number of rounds fired by a concealed carry permit holder in a confrontation is less than 2 rounds.  It’s kind of a draw from a capacity perspective, at least from my perspective.  If you’re a keyboard commando, you may feel differently.  Go post your opinions on Facebook; they need folks like you.

So what’s my preference?  Most of the time, it’s the 1911, but I love both of these handguns.


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A Custom TJ Combat Commander

We’ve featured TJ’s Custom Gunworks a few times here on the ExNotes blog.  I’ll take credit for influencing another good buddy who had TJ work his magic on a Colt Combat Commander, and this one is a honey.  Colt’s Combat Commander is a 4.25-inch barreled version of the 1911.  This TJ custom auto is hard chromed and it is a stunning example of TJ’s workmanship. You can see it in the photos and you can see the results on the range.

The Combat Commander shown here has had the following modifications:

      • Polished hard chrome finish over stainless steel.
      • Throated and polished barrel and frame.
      • Fitted and polished extractor.
      • New match trigger and action job.
      • New match hammer.
      • Smoothed breech face.
      • Polished full length guide rod.
      • Satin polish on barrel hood and chamber.
      • Extended slide catch.
      • New and rounded steel mainspring housing.
      • Trigger pull set to 3.0 lbs.
      • Melted sharp edges.
      • Reduced strength and smoothed magazine release button.
      • DayGlo red front sight.
      • Honduran rosewood burl grips.

I’ve seen this gun in action on the range and it is a thing of beauty.  I’ve had a few guns customized by TJ, and I’ve steered a few friends there. I’ve had six handguns and a rifle customized by TJ, and every one of them is a stellar example of his craftsmanship.  These include a Model 59, a bright stainless Colt 1911, the MacManus Colt 1911, the Rock Island Compact, a Model 60 Smith and Wesson snubbie, a Ruger Mini 14, and a new Colt Python.  TJ’s emphasis is on reliability and perfection and on all of my guns he met those objectives in every case.  When it comes to custom firearms, it doesn’t get any better than TJ’s Custom Gunworks.


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I’ll be Bach: The AMT 1911 Hardballer Long Slide

“I’ll be Bach,” of course, is the written Austrian-accent impersonation of the Governator (i.e., Arnold) in what has to be one of the best sci-fi movies ever, Terminator.  One of the several guns that received top billing in that movie was an AMT Long Slide Hardballer equipped with a laser sight.

There are a lot of cool things to know about the Terminator movie and its armament, not the least of which is that laser target designators were not yet available for handguns when the movie was released in 1985.  Ahnold’s (misspelled intentionally) AMT Hardballer had a custom 10,000-volt laser, and the wiring for all that power was hidden in the future governor’s jacket sleeve.  I liked the movie, but I especially liked seeing the Long Slide Hardballer 1911 in it.  You see, I own one.  It cost just $365 back in the day and it was manufactured by Arcadia Machine and Tool (hence the AMT moniker) just up the road from me in Monrovia, California.  It is a stainless steel 1911, it has a 7-inch long slide and barrel, and it is accurate.  That’s my gun you see in the phot0 at the top of this blog.  One of these guns recently sold for close to $2,000 complete with box and papers.  I have the box and papers that came with mine.  And no, it’s not for sale.

The Hardballer is surprisingly accurate.  The 2-inch longer sight radius really works.  Mine has not been tightened up, accurized, or modified in any way.  The trigger pull is a bit higher than I would like, but it’s crisp (one of these days, I may get around to having TJ of TJ’s Custom Gunworks do a trigger job on it).  I found the targets you see below in an old reloading notebook; they were all fired by yours truly, standing, at 50 feet.  I guess that old saying is true:  The older I get, the better I was.




I’ve owned my Hardballer for close to 40 years now.  The AMT company is no more, so there won’t be any more of them.  It’s a classic, and I need to get out and shoot it more often.  Maybe I’ll do that today.


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Compact 1911 Spring Fatigue

The last time I had the Compact 1911 on the range, I shot worse than usual.  At 25 yards (with me resting my arms on the bench), I can typically keep my shots in the black with the Rock Compact.  This is how I shot last week:

Maybe adequate for defense purposes and probably close enough for government work, but terrible shooting.

That’s pitiful (there’s a few 9mm holes on that target above; ignore those). Then I noticed the slide was not going fully back into battery, which was something new to me.  It wasn’t jammed, it just needed a slight nudge to finish the trip home.

The slide sitting about a tenth of an inch from returning to battery.

Another view of the slide not returning to battery. “Battery” means fully forward, ready to fire the next round.I knew that Compact 1911 recoil springs fatigue earlier than the springs in full-sized 1911s, but this one snuck up on me.  Armscor (the Rock Island Armory folks who manufactured my Compact 1911) were out of stock, so I ordered a new spring from Wilson Combat.  Wilson Combat is a recognized “go to” shop in the 1911 world.  I received my new recoil spring a few days later.

A brand-new Wilson Combat 24-pound recoil spring.

Online research said the life of these springs in a Compact 1911 is only about 2000 rounds, tops.  That surprised me.  The literature from Wilson surprised me even more:

The Wildon Combat bubble-pack literature.

1000 rounds.  That’s 10 boxes of ammo.  Wow.  I probably had several times that many rounds through my Rock.  Small wonder the slide wasn’t returning to battery.

When the spring arrived, I was eager to put it in my 1911.  I dropped the magazine and cleared the weapon:

The TJ-customized and polished feed ramp and chamber entrance on the Rock Island Armory Compact 1911. Yep, it’s empty.

Then it was time to turn to my custom, German tool steel, carefully configured to exacting tolerances, Rock Island Armory Compact 1911 disassembly tool.  It’s a bent paper clip:

A bent paper clip 1911 disassembly aid.

The drill is to lock the slide back, put the paper clip in the guide rod hole, and ease the slide gently forward to engage the paper clip.

The 1911 guide rod hole that accepts the paper clip disassembly aid.
With the slide forward on the guide rod, held in place by the paper clip You bend the paper clip so that the guide rod, recoil plug, and recoil spring can be pushed rearward in the slide to remove these three components as a subassembly).

Once I had the slide forward, with the paper clip disassembly aid in place like you see above, I withdrew the slide release from the left side of the pistol.  At that point, the entire slide assembly can slide forward off the receiver.

Another view from underneath the slide.

The next step was to extract the recoil spring, the guide rod, and the recoil plug out of the slide.  It’s best to leave the paper clip in the guide rod (i.e., with the recoil spring still compressed), and then slide the entire recoil plug/recoil spring/guide rod rearward as a unit out of the slide.  After that, I pushed down on the recoil plug, withdrew the paper clip from the guide rod, and released the compression on the spring.  I was careful when I did this; parts could go flying if I just let them go.  Don’t ask me how I know this.

The recoil plug, the guide rod, and the recoil spring removed from the slide with the paper clip removed.

Here’s what the guide rod, the original recoil spring, and the new Wilson Combat recoil spring look like.  The new spring is on the bottom:

Quite a difference, huh?  In case you were wondering, both springs have 14 coils.

I think the new spring wire diameter is larger than the original spring wire diameter.  I didn’t think to measure it before I installed it; I will do so the next time I have the gun apart.  And there’s a huge difference in free length, as you can see in the above photo.

Installing the new spring on the guide rod with its recoil plug was a challenge.  I had make to a tool to compress the spring and the recoil plug enough to get a paper clip on the guide rod to hold everything together so I could install it in the slide.  Again, I was super careful.  I didn’t want to release these parts, and I always wear eye protection when I do this sort of thing.  A lot of people get hurt by being careless with springs.

The reassembled recoil plug, recoil spring, and guide rod, ready for insertion in the slide.

At this point, I reinstalled the subassembly in the slide, I slid the slide onto the receiver, and then I reinstalled the slide stop.

Once the gun was back together, the first time I tried to rack the slide I was shocked.  I couldn’t pull the slide all the way back.  I muscled it and then did so several times, and it seems to be okay now, but wow, it is stiff.   The 24-pound recoil spring is way stronger than what the Compact 1911 had in it.  That’s the bad news.  The good news is that the problem with the slide not returning to battery is gone.

The Compact with the slide in battery.

You know, I was playing around with the Compact 45 when I was cleaning it before the above spring replacement and I noticed that because the slide only went limply into battery there was a lot more play between the receiver and the slide.  I thought maybe it was me, but I noticed the accuracy was really falling off the last couple of times I shot it.  I’ll bet when the recoil spring holds the slide firmly in battery keeps the slide in the same spot each time.  With a weak spring, it stands to reason that the slide would swim around a bit more and accuracy would suffer.  I shook the gun in my hand with the old spring in it, and it rattled just like the 1911s I carried in the Army. I’ll bet they all had worn recoil springs, too.

When testing a recoil spring to see if it’s the right one, the drill is to load one round in the magazine, fire it, and if the slide locks back after that round (as it is supposed to do), the spring is good.  I tried that with seven rounds of factory hardball and the new Wilson Combat 24-pound recoil spring, and it worked each time.  Then I tried my 230-grain cast hardball load with 5.6 grains of Unique (my reloads are less potent but way more accurate than factory ammo), and it worked great.  Then I tried my 185-grain cast semi-wadcutter load (with 5.0 grains of Bullseye; my Compact 1911 accuracy load), and it worked great.  It’s a little easier to rack the slide now, but it’s still way stiffer than it was before.


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A Favorite 1911

The 1911 is an all time favorite handgun for me (and a lot of other people, too).   I’ve owned several 1911s over the last few decades, I carried one in the Army, and I enjoy shooting them.  One of the best I’ve ever owned is a bright stainless steel Series 80 Government Model I bought new back in the mid-1980s.   Mine has been customized by good buddy TJ (of TJ’s Custom Gunworks) and it’s the one you see here.  I have no idea how many rounds I’ve sent downrange with this gun, but it’s been zillions.  Maybe even gazillions.

TJ’s Custom 1911 Touches

My bright stainless 1911 has had a number of TJ’s custom touches.  The fixed Millet sights are probably the most obvious.

Front and rear Millet sights on my 1911. You’re actually supposed to focus on the front sight and the rear should be blurred when shooting (just the opposite of what you see here). I’ll post more on that in a later blog.
The Millet red ramp front sight.

TJ polished and ramped the gun’s internals so it will feed anything, he added a Les Baer match grade barrel, and I had him engine turn the chamber (I love the look).

A Les Baer match barrel.
I like it so much I photographed it twice!

The original Colt front sight wouldn’t stay put on my 1911 (probably because of the number of rounds I was cycling through it), and after having the front sight restaked twice, I knew something more permanent was required.  The Millet red ramp from sight has two stakes, they are each larger than the single Colt front sight stake, and TJ JB-welded them from underneath after staking.  They are on there for the duration.  A lot of folks prefer a dovetailed front sight and that would have worked, too, but I’m partial to these no-longer-made Millets.  I just like the look.

The rear sight is a fixed Millet dovetail and it has a bright white outline that works well with the red ramp front. I’m not normally a fan of gimmicky sight doodads like red ramps and white outlines, but these just flat work.  They’re quick to acquire and they put the bullets where I want them to go.  Millet sights are no longer in production, but they are some of the best ever made and TJ keeps a stash in stock for his customers.  I imagine he spends a lot of time on Ebay hunting for these things.

One other thing TJ did on my 1911:  He fitted the extractor.  It was very rough as delivered from Colt and difficult to remove for cleaning.  Now (after TJ’s magic touches) it inserts and removes easily, and extraction is flawless.

1911 Accuracy

Close enough for government work, most folks would say, and maybe that’s so.  When I slow down and do my part, I can tear one ragged hole at 50 feet with my 1911, and that’s good enough.  If I’m shooting for fun with a bit of speed, it’s not problem to put an entire box of ammo through one big ragged hole with the odd flyer or five like you see up top.

The Millet sights print where I want them to, and I like the simplicity of fixed handgun sights.  It’s a good setup.

Getting a Grip

My 1911 didn’t need a trigger job, and TJ recommended not trying to improve the trigger after he felt it.  The gun came with the rubber Pachmayr-type wraparound grips from the Colt factory, and I added a Pachmayr rubberized rear grip housing.  Those two items (the rubber grips and rear grip housing) are, in my opinion, as good as it gets in the 1911 game.  I don’t think that rear grip housing is available any more.  I wish I had bought a few extra when Pachmayr was still making them.

Appearance Is Everything 

I’m not normally a shiny objects kind of guy, but when I first saw my bright stainless 1911 in that gun store 35 years ago, I knew I had to have it. The gun just looked cool and it’s a conversation starter.  It’s easy to pick up minor scratches that I can see before other folks do, but they come right out with a bit of Flitz (a superb stainless steel polish) and a little elbow grease.

My Three Favorite .45 ACP Loads

The target you see at the top of this blog?  That’s 50 rounds at 50 feet with one of my favorite loads for this and any other 1911 I’ve ever shot:  5.0 grains of Bullseye under a 185-grain cast semi-wadcutter bullet.  I’ve got a couple of other favorite loads, too.  One is the 230-grain cast roundnose over 5.6 grains of Unique (that load is 100% reliable in any 1911).   Another for target work is 4.2 grains of Bullseye and a 200-grain cast semi-wadcutter.  All three loads are as reliable as taxes going up under a Democrat, and they all work with the same recoil spring.  In my case, that’s the spring that came with my Colt 1911.

230 grains (in this case, bullets from Xtreme), 5.6 grains of Unique, and good times.

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A Model 625 load…

When I first posted about the Model 60 load development plan and the Altamont grips I bought from good buddy Paul, the cover photo showed my recently-acquired Model 60 snubbie and a Smith and Wesson Performance Center Model 625 I’ve owned for years.

The Model 625 and the Model 60.

I like that photo because the two stainless steel Smiths look great on the wild boar skin.  That skin is from a pig hunt Paul and I did in Arizona a few years ago.

The earlier blog was about finding an accuracy load for the Model 60, but a few people wrote to ask if I had a favorite load for the Model 625.  I do: My usual accuracy load for the 625 is a cast 200-grain cast semiwadcutter bullet (sized to .452 inches) over 4.2 grains of Bullseye.

When I went to the range to run a few rounds through the 625 I picked a box of ammo I had reloaded in 2014.  It was different than my usual accuracy load.  I used the same bullet (a 200-grain cast semi-wadcutter), but instead of Bullseye I had loaded these over 6.0 grains of Unique.  And instead of .45 ACP brass in star clips, I used AutoRim brass.  This is the load I fired that 6-shot group you see in the cover photo above for this blog, and it’s a honey.  The group, that is…not the photo (it’s hard to get true colors when using an iPhone in the shade).  I shot at 50 feet while standing…there’s no rest for the Model 625 or the weary.

.45 ACP cartridges in star clips for the Model 625. These are loaded with 230-grain cast roundnose Missouri bullets.
The .45 ACP cartridge (left) and the .45 AutoRim cartridge (right). The AutoRim cartridge is designed for use in the Model 625 without star clips. The ACP cartridge has a 230-grain roundnose Xtreme bullet; the AutoRim cartridge has Missouri’s 200-grain semi-wadcutter.

The AutoRim brass is in the tumbler as I write this and when I reload it I’m going to go with the same load: The 200-grain cast semi-wadcutter over 6.0 grains of Unique.  It seems to be working for me.


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